Thanks for the mention! I agree that the AI genie cannot be put back in the bottle and we basically need to get on board or be left behind. But I do take issue with this: "You are the one giving the platform value because it’s only as good as the data you upload." If only it were the case that we were all training our own models with our own data. Instead, the models are being trained on the output of millions of writers, illustrators and creators in general who never gave permission for their work to be plagiarised for zero money by absolutely anyone. AI might be here to stay whether we like it or not, but I agree with Stacey's earlier post that it's inherently unethical.
I remember the early debates around digital cameras versus film and the editing tools that are now commonplace on our phones. There are some parallels here with AI. Was it a ‘real’ photograph if someone retouched it digitally? Are we developing film? Bringing it to the Foto-Mat? Are we even printing those photographic memories anymore? Nah, we’re just scrolling 10,000 digitally enhanced photos on our phone without a thought anymore. Enhanced color? Easy. Black and White? Done. Sure, the real photo enthusiasts care, the hard-core folks still using film, studying light, backpack of gear. And then there’s the rest of us, happy to take photos with a convenient camera phone that can increase the contrast with a button click.
Wine and photo enthusiasts may have some things to discuss in the future, like adaptation to new tools. Yeah, I’d listen to what Jensen has to say too. You’re right Corinne, the AI-genie isn’t going back in the bottle, Somms and other industry people better figure out how to use it best in their line of work.
Thank you for the “must read” regarding my post. Appreciate the shout out.
As we already know, I have massive issues with AI genrative art like the cartoons and "art" pieces on Billik's IG. I so dearly wish humans would consider AI beyond how it impacts them directly, but we never do. And that's where Billik's view somewha breaks down - sure, incorporating AI as a tool is important, and will help, but only other somms are going to respect where the boundaries are and the value of a human service professional vs. what as AI can give. Remove that personal interest, and non-somms are going to use AI the way Billik uses it to whip up "art" without a second thought, or keen enough eye to see how lacking the final product is compared to the human version of the thing.
Dave, Billik is an advanced sommelier. He didn't just whip up the images. They are created from actual questions he got asked on the restaurant floor and the humor is part of his business portfolio: To make wine more accessible to younger audiences.
If he used AI to create the art, then he did indeed just whip up the images. Having advanced knowledge of wine, service, and experience with said service does not give anyone skills at art, cartooning, comics, or anything else related to those fields. If he wanted to create creative memes using his own skills in photography, video, and design, that would be something I could give him credit for. But not thinking of a funny strip then having it spontaneously created. Ideation is not creation.
Respectfully, I read her post as commenting on the substance of AI wine recommendations, rather than the art that she shared at the back end of her terrific post.
Thanks for the mention! I agree that the AI genie cannot be put back in the bottle and we basically need to get on board or be left behind. But I do take issue with this: "You are the one giving the platform value because it’s only as good as the data you upload." If only it were the case that we were all training our own models with our own data. Instead, the models are being trained on the output of millions of writers, illustrators and creators in general who never gave permission for their work to be plagiarised for zero money by absolutely anyone. AI might be here to stay whether we like it or not, but I agree with Stacey's earlier post that it's inherently unethical.
I remember the early debates around digital cameras versus film and the editing tools that are now commonplace on our phones. There are some parallels here with AI. Was it a ‘real’ photograph if someone retouched it digitally? Are we developing film? Bringing it to the Foto-Mat? Are we even printing those photographic memories anymore? Nah, we’re just scrolling 10,000 digitally enhanced photos on our phone without a thought anymore. Enhanced color? Easy. Black and White? Done. Sure, the real photo enthusiasts care, the hard-core folks still using film, studying light, backpack of gear. And then there’s the rest of us, happy to take photos with a convenient camera phone that can increase the contrast with a button click.
Wine and photo enthusiasts may have some things to discuss in the future, like adaptation to new tools. Yeah, I’d listen to what Jensen has to say too. You’re right Corinne, the AI-genie isn’t going back in the bottle, Somms and other industry people better figure out how to use it best in their line of work.
Thank you for the “must read” regarding my post. Appreciate the shout out.
As we already know, I have massive issues with AI genrative art like the cartoons and "art" pieces on Billik's IG. I so dearly wish humans would consider AI beyond how it impacts them directly, but we never do. And that's where Billik's view somewha breaks down - sure, incorporating AI as a tool is important, and will help, but only other somms are going to respect where the boundaries are and the value of a human service professional vs. what as AI can give. Remove that personal interest, and non-somms are going to use AI the way Billik uses it to whip up "art" without a second thought, or keen enough eye to see how lacking the final product is compared to the human version of the thing.
Dave, Billik is an advanced sommelier. He didn't just whip up the images. They are created from actual questions he got asked on the restaurant floor and the humor is part of his business portfolio: To make wine more accessible to younger audiences.
If he used AI to create the art, then he did indeed just whip up the images. Having advanced knowledge of wine, service, and experience with said service does not give anyone skills at art, cartooning, comics, or anything else related to those fields. If he wanted to create creative memes using his own skills in photography, video, and design, that would be something I could give him credit for. But not thinking of a funny strip then having it spontaneously created. Ideation is not creation.
My friend...this is one of those topics where we are going to have to agree to disagree. Cheers!
Respectfully, I read her post as commenting on the substance of AI wine recommendations, rather than the art that she shared at the back end of her terrific post.
Yes, I read it the same, I wasn't commenting on what she was saying, but rather what was going unspoken, and tellingly so.